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This is to summarise the findings 0f the Hore/Hord et al group.
I am calling this our Hore family because there can now be little doubt with the DNA evidence available that we are all related. We just need to link the American Hore/Hord family to the UK Hore family, which may prove quite difficult because not all immigration records have survived.
1603 England – Death of Queen Elizabeth I on 24 March
1603 England – James VI of Scotland crowned King of England (as James I of England)
1603 England – Bubonic Plague or better known as the Black Death killed 30,000 Londoners
1605 England and Scotland – on 5 November, the Gunpowder plot is uncovered, in which Guy Fawkes and other catholic associates attempted to blow up the king, James VI and I and the Parliament of England.
1618 England – Execution of Sir Walter Raleigh
1625 England and Scotland – Death of James VI and I on 27 March
1639 England and Scotland – At war until 1644 in what become known as the Bishops’ Wars
1640 England – The Long Parliament summoned.
1642 England – English Civil War begins. There were 3 civil wars lasting from 1642 - 1651 an estimated 200,000 people died in England, more died in Scotland and far more in Ireland.
1652 England – Tea arrives in Britain
1665 England – The Bubonic plague kills 2.5% of the English population, in London alone an estimated 70 - 100,000 people died.
1666 England – The Great Fire of London ravages the city, 2–5 September. 70,000 out of 80,000 homes were destroyed but only 6 deaths were reported.
1688 England – The Glorious Revolution replaces James II with William III
1689 England and Scotland – The Bill of Rights 1689 and the Claim of Right Act 1689 are enacted by the Parliament of England and Parliament of Scotland.
You can see why people wanted to leave England for the America’s.
This is the first super group with strong DNA evidence to suggest many other surnames have patrilineal lines in common. Not derived, variant or deviant, these are stark surname changes likely due to an NPE or purposeful change to a spouses surname or similar. Whatever the reason, the people with surnames of Hoare, Hord, Munday, Carver and Cox, Elliston and Monroe, and now even Boren are in this group, and are all matching with each other.
The first result we had was late 2015 when my first yDNA str37 results came in, this showed a match to Horace Blainey Hord - unfortunately not much else is known about this person. Since then we have recruited more people and have done deep str testing.
Latest yFull results - we now have our own sub branch R-Y29879 with a TMRCA (Time to the Most Recent Common Ancestor), estmated at between 75 - 600 ybp (years before present).
With so many unique SNP’s that we all share (and only we share) in that terminal branch point, our STR match values are definitive and matching. We all share a most recent common ancestor.
The results also suggest that the Hore/Hoare name is the furthest away in the genealogical timescale and that the other surnames were a change from the original le Hore.
The earliest mention is Hugh le HORE who in 1327 paid 9d in tax at Charlton Kings. (Source – 1327 Tax Lists). The next recorded mention is John le HORE 1361. Gift in fee simple. (i) John Baret of Chorleton. (ii) Walter de Home, John Balle, John Snel, John le Hore. 3 a. land in Newenton (this was a village called Naunton). Given at Chorleton (Charlton Kings). 1 seal, red. (Source – Gloucester RO D1876/13). As you can see the Hore family have been living in this area since the early 1300’s and probably before that.
From Leckhampton we will now follow just my branch of the Hore family. In the early 1600’s we find that the earliest recorded member of my family is Thomas Hoare of Leckhampton who’s son Giles Hoare of Leckhampton married Catherine Heathe of Tackley on 27 August 1627 at Saint Giles church, City of Oxford (Source - Oxfordshire Parish registers). Although I suspect one branch of the family were already there. They settled with Catherine’s parents in a village called Tackley in Oxfordshire. From Tackley the Hoare family moved to Banbury in Oxfordshire in the early 1700’s where the family is recorded as Boatmen. Banbury was a large centre for trade and industry and all goods were transported by canal, families lived and worked in very cramped and dirty conditions on the tar boats and barges. The mid 1800’s saw the family moving to Northampton, some still working on the canal’s but with the advent of the railways people needed to find other employment and Northampton was fast becoming the main centre of the shoe industry. By the early 1900’s my branch of the family had moved on to Birmingham, where we find my grandfather Daniel Hoare born 17 Dec 1870 in Northampton, opening a shoe shop in the centre of Birmingham, the family lived above the shoe shop in two rooms with 11 children. Since the 1600’s we find their main occupations were farmers, glovers, boatmen, shoe makers/repairers.
The family name in early times started as ‘le Hore’, early 1500’s we find the ‘le’ being dropped and other variations being used ‘Hoore’ in some early wills. From the later 1600’s the surname then became ‘Hoare’ occasionally we find the ‘e’ being left out. At no point in my research have I found the name being spelt ‘Hord’.
Giles Hoare and Catherine Heathe had two children, Robert b.1627 and John c. 1628. Not much is recorded about John Hoare other than a reference in a book called ‘History of Banbury’, published by Alfred Beesley in 1841, John Hoare is mentioned in a list of prisoners in 1645 being returned to Banbury.
John Hoare/Hore had a brother Robert Hoare who was a clerk at Copeley Parish, and two sisters Elizabeth and Margaret.
1700, 28 May; 1701, 2 Dec. John Scott of Mattox, Westmoreland County, Virginia, merchant, 28 May 1700, now bound to sea. My wife Sarah to be the executrix in trust and my kinsman Mr William Graham and Mr. Andrew MUNROE the executors in trust to my children until they come of age. My son John and brother Gustavos Scott of Bristol to be executors. A mourning ring to John HOARE, and to his son John Hoare junior, my godson, a thousand pounds of tobacco. To my kinsman William Graham ten pounds (in money) and my watch which I carry to England to be repaired. To Mr. Andrew MUNROE my silver hilted sword and belt, a case of pistols and holsters. To Mr. David Wilson a gold ring.
Wit: Nathaniel Pope, Charles Tankersly, James Mason, David Wilson, Thomas Wickers. (The will of John Scott was proved in the Prerogative Court of Canterbury).(Source - Genealogical Gleanings in England. Vol.1)
16 Feb 1712 John HORE of Washington Parish made a will, son Elias HORE land in Stafford, son John HORE land where he now lived on Mattox Creek and a silver hilted sword, son James HORE land on south side of Mattox Creek which he bought off John Beard and Mary his wife, until his children come of age John and Elias are to be exrs.
26 March 1712 Elias HORE and John HORE produced in court the last will and testament of John HORE decd. It was ordered that William MUNROE, John Elliot, Joseph Weekes and Thomas Arrington (Harrison), appraise the estate and make a report to the court.
24 Feb 1713/14 HORE’s estate to be divided. Upon petition of Mrs Sarah HORE, relict of Mr. John HORE, decd., it is ordered Mr. Charles Tyler, Mr. Robert Lovell and Mr. William MUNROE divide the estate of John HORE into three equal parts or portions and that they do posess Sarah with one full third part thereof.(Westmoreland County, Virginia Order Book, 1712-1714, Antient Press, page 85).
1745 April 6. Catherine HORE married Thomas MONROE. (Source - Overwharton Parish Register, Stafford County).
1747 Jan 8. George Hore MONROE born son of Thomas and Catherine (HORE). (Source - Overwharton Parish Register, Stafford County).
1748 Thomas MONROE baptized. (Source - Overwharton Parish Register, Stafford County).
1751 Isabel MONROE born, daughter of Thomas and Catherine (HORE). (Source - Overwharton Parish Register, Stafford County).
John Hoare/Hore had a plantation next to Andrew Munroe and the Hore family intermarried with the Munroe’s. Catherine Scotia (Scottie) Hatton Kellar married Isaac BORUM. Scottie was the great granddaughter of John Hore.
More about John HOARE/HORE senior b. bef. 1650 d. 1712 in Washington Parish, Westmoreland. He married Sarah Webb daughter of Elias Webb and Catherine Sute. He had two sisters: Margaret Hore married Abraham Blagge. Elizabeth Hore married Roger Mosse. His brother Robert Hore married Sarah MNU.
He had four children:
(1) Elias Hore b. bef. 1680 d. 1729 Stafford County. Elias married Isabella Triplett daughter of William Triplett and Isabella Miller. Elias’s son William Hore married Sarah Triplett.
(2) James Hore b. bef 1700 d. 1763 no record of any marriage.
(3) Catherine Hore c. 1701 King George County married John Triplett son of William Triplett and Isabella Miller.
(4) John Hore junior b. bef. 1680 married Jane MNU and moved to Middlesex County.
Notice the names Triplett and Miller, we know from records that the Hore/Hord family of Shady Grove intermarried with the Miller family and the Tripletts are also mentioned.
His son John Hore junior was left land in Mattox in the will of his father dated 1712, but there is no record of him in that County after that date. I think it safe to assume that John Hore’s son John Hore junior (2) is the John Hoare/Hord of Essex County.
Follow the link to more information about John Hoare Senior of Westmoreland , Virginia: Hoare family of Westmoreland and Stafford Counties, Virginia
I think it safe to assume that John Hord of Shady Grove, Essex County is in fact John Hoare junior son of John Hoare snr of Stafford County and Westmoreland County. The time scale is about right, also the intermarriage of both families with the Miller, Triplett, Harrison, Slaughter etc families.
The early records of Middlesex County have his name spelt Hoare/Hoar/Hore it is only later, from about 1720 onwards that the surname, for some reason started being spelt Hoard/Hord. In the UK the Hore/Hoare surname has never been spelt Hord. When you combine this with the DNA evidence, the ancestors of John Hord of Shady Grove in all probability originated from the Hore family in Westmoreland County. Follow the link for more on John Hoare/Hord of Middlesex and Essex County
There is only one place and time that all these families were living in the same area of the Northern Neck of Virginia between 1650 and 1700.
Still lots of work to do we need to confirm that the Hoare/Hore family of Westmoreland County, Virgina are related to the Hoare/Hord family of Middlesex and Essex County with geealogical proof. Also we need to find the link between the Hoare family in the UK and the Hoare family in Virginia in the early 1600’s
I am splitting these into two groups, the Middlesex and Essex County group and the Westmoreland and Stafford County group.
Group 1: Hoare/Hord, Munday, Carver, Cox, Elliston
(1) We have 5 members of the Hord family tested who can trace their EKA back to John Hoare/Hord of Shady Grove, therefore we know that the names merged before 1703, which is the earliest record I have for John Hoare of Middlesex County, Virginia.
(2) The Cox and Carver surnames originated from Munday and we have 2 other Munday matches making 4 altogether. The 2 Mundays have their EKA as Jesse Munday b.1798 but cannot trace their ancestors back any further than that. In the rent roll of Essex County, VA dated 1704 their is a Thomas Munday who owned 500 acres of land and we know John Hoare/Hord held lands in Essex County about 1713.
(3) The two Elliston family members don’t have a EKA but we know from records that a Robert Elliston married Eleanor Miller early 1700’s Essex County, VA, and of coarse the Millers intermarried with the Hoare/Hord family so there was probably a change of name sometime in the early 1700’s.
Group 2: Hoare/Hore, Munroe, Boren
(1) We have 3 members of the Munroe family who can trace their EKA back to Thomas Munroe c.1812 Hartwood District, Stafford County, VA, we need to do more research on this line but we do know John Hoare/Hore had a plantation next to Andrew Munroe and the Hoare family intermarried with the Munroe’s.
(2) The last match is for the surname Boren c. 1770 no other details given. We find that in 1666 Wm BOREN, 1000 acres Stafford County, 5 June 1666, p. 526 Transfer of 20 persons. (Source – Cavaliers and Pioneers. Abstracts of Virginia Land Patents and Grants 1623 – 1800. Nell Marion Nugent). William Boren is also listed as having lands next to Andrew MUNROE.
(3) In c. 1828 Catherine Scotia (Scottie) Hatton Kellar the great granddaughter of John Hoare senior married Isaac Borum.
(4) The Northern Neck is the only place that all these families were living relatively close together in that time period, combined with the DNA evidence I don’t think there is any doubt that they all derived from the original John Hoare senior who settled in Westmoreland and Stafford Counties, VA.