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B10 Hore's of the Jurassic Coast, England


See the yDNA Groupings page B10DNA for more information on why this group is created.

This is a grouping of family branches from the Jurassic Coast area of England (B10) that share a common ancestor in the past 500 years; as given by DNA Evidence. The genealogy needs to now catch up and find the link between them. All branches trace back to the same general area of Southeast Devon and far Western Dorset near the coast. Hence the temporary naming until the common EKA is found.

In summary, here is the EKA of each sub-branch along with the later-emigrating descendant. All tested and matching members link through one of these branches. All have a single tester except B01 which has over a dozen.
GrpEKA NameBMDLocationEmigrated Name & DateBMDLocation
B01Thomas Hored.1538Axminster, Devon, EnglandHezekiah Hoar, 1633b.1608Sidmouth, Devon, England
B08Francis Hoareb.1653Beaminster, Dorset, England not disclosed, 1850'sb.18xxDorset, England
B11William Hoareb.1781Combpyne, Devon, EnglandLiving, 1970'sb.1946Woolwich, London, England
B21Robert Hoareb.1781Musbury, Devon, Englandsame, 1816d.1851Indiana
K05William Hoareb.1721Canford Magna, Dorset, Englandnone identified--

The current ancestors tested are all very closely matched. The strength of the yDNA STR match with William Hoare's descendant implies that William Hoare may be from a descendant of Hezekiah Hoar or at most his brother. Project co-admin Randy from Hezekiah's line, the one descendant of William, and the newly added descendant of Robert all test very tightly to each other; and farther from all the other Hezekiah descendants (and Francis of Doreset). But as Hezekiah went to the New World 150 years before William and Robert were born in Devon, it does not make sense that Randy would be more closely linked to these branches than his own Hezekiah one.

Work by our co-admin Malcolm, that we have as yet to publish or post anywhere, indicates that B11 William Hoare line descends from Hezekiah's brother Jasper. This is pretty solid genealogical wise and would indicate the closeness we are seeing in the Y DNA match.

We introduced B21 Robert Hoare b1781 in Musbury based on a DNA match and solid genealogical research back to that time. When the match came in and the matches EKA was just his his grandfather, Randy jumped in to try and prove the line, Randy did research from their EKA to Robert and further up. The generations up to Robert are pretty solid. It appears this line may not merge with B10 until 1400 -1500's.. But the research beyond Robert defining B21 needs to be more deeply verified.

Randy has shown, through pretty extensive Autosomal analysis, that his Peter branch is descendant from Hezekiah's descendant Robert III. So it cannot be that Peter was a possible more recent emigrant and branched from a closer common ancestor of William and Robert. Francis is the most distant (DNA evidence implied time) from the Hezekiah, William, and Robert tested descendants. But still will share a common ancestor sometime in the last 500 years. Thomas is the 2xGreat-Grandfather of Hezekiah and their EKA. He also represents the oldest traced ancestor of these lines. None of the lines have traced any family branches that remained in England to the present day, at this time (except for the newly added branch K05 which has never left the area).

Like done in the B09 page, we really need to develop and post a working theory tree that ties all these groups / ancestors together. "The Cobbler’s Children Have No Shoes" syndrome.

Based on David G Hoare's HoareOrigins work, specifically that labeled 06: Dorset, we have moved the branch K05 to this study as the genealogical work seems to imply a likely link (Fall 2018). We are now working to actively recruit identified living descendants to thus yDNA test. This group K05 was created early on during the formation of the project (2014) but never explored further until David's work on it recently just before his passing (Fall 2017).

Click the map at the right to view the significant areas of these family branches that shows their geographic proximity to each other. The water's edge is known as the Jurassic Coast and hence the naming of this group until a common ancestor is determined. We have not added K05 yet but it is very close to the B08 Dorset group.

Also depicted in the map is the location of the Risford Manor Hore estate for comparison. William Acton, working for Hoare's Bank in London, is trying to trace the descendants of the Risford Manor Hore family to the present day. At least the 1600 to 1700's branches he could follow. His work has been captured by David G Hoare on his HoareOrigins research website. See Research and Information page for more info. No Patriline descended to the present day has yet been found to find a possible yDNA tester. This is the only identified group tied to Devon in the project and hence the interest with this study.